Also, don’t worry about the release notes. We’re on it. That was a slip-up on our part and we appreciate everyone reminding us how important those notes can be when choosing whether or not to work with a beta or new release. (Keeping in mind that there is always the risk of bugs in any beta… that’s why betas exist!)
Reading all this, I must say, I am very happy with Aillio. I am an early adopter an I feel Aillio is doing much more than I expected of a hardware producer. They are innovative and let their early customers share in innovations as the IBTS. They developed dedicated software. They have a good customer service (yes I had my part of malfunctions) Of course there are some glitches from time to time. We give them feed back and they learn from it. I don’t feel like some of us here who constantly and repeatedly gripe about things Aillio did wrong in an accusing way. We don’t have to use alpha or beta versions if we don’t want to risk a bug. And if we don’t want to be part of this development, we can always use Artisan.
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I’ve only completed 43 roasts with my Bullet, so haven’t felt the need to get adventurous with the software/firmware.
When I first bought it, I saw a great deal of interaction with this forum by Aillio, so felt good about my ability to advance my roasting, and get troubleshooting help. Seemed like Aillio disappeared from the forum for a while and with other users reporting some problems, I stayed on RT 2.2 and FW512. I’m very glad to see Aillio back and addressing some of the comments, and now feel better about upgrading and trying Recipes.
Thanks to the guys like PapasCup, Bruce, Stuart, and others for spending time here discussing their thoughts and Aillio for responding.
I’m drinking better coffee than I ever imagined right now. 
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Why would you assume such things about me after having been here daily for months since purchasing the Bullet? Seems the one that is “assuming” is more you than I. With Aillio’s noticeable absence of participation here for lengthy periods, it would have been easy to “assume” many things about Aillio.
I have attempted to get you folks to come out and talk to your customers. I have been here helping people every day and my complaints have been to get Aillio to respond to their customer’s concerns and tell us what they are doing. It should not have to come to that to get you guys to come forth, but In that regard I did accomplish something and will move on.
Thank-you for the kind thought.
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Thank you @kafei & @jacob for taking the time to give us a further peek behind Stuart’s famous ‘curtain’. I’m pleased to hear your enthusiastic insight about Aillio plans for R.W, RT & Bullet f/w. I’m pretty happy with where your (& our) collective efforts have gotten us recently and I look forward to participating to the extent I can offer anything constructive with the user-tested s/w development. I had a similar happy experience a few years ago with DxO OpticsPro photo-editing s/w and see this (or any) collaboration with users as a necessary element of any s/w development program.
re: Stuart’s …
I’m with Stuart. x2
Oh, and “don’t worry about the release note”? Mmmm… I don’t think so. We’ll probably keep nagging y’all!
Bruce
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Is there going to be a fix for the color changes not working?
I had no problem using line-color selection with 2.5.0-beta running Win 10. Are you using the Mac? If so, have you tried 2.5.1-alpha? May have been picked up there.
Bruce
Windows 10. Can edit colors but no change to program display.
Am I right that you
- chose the color, then
- clicked Save; on the following screen you then
- clicked Update before exiting? [It grates that I have to click Cancel to exit Setup!]
If that sequence didn’t work I’m stumped. I’m not using anything special in the way of a computer… a 6 year old Samsung laptop, Logitech mouse, and I let Windows update whenever it has the urge since it is a losing battle to keep any sense of control over the update process.
Bruce
Hey Bruce,
Yes, all of those steps. Several times. Profile shows the changes but program does not reflect them. Going to try uninstall/delete folder/re-install…
Thanks for the help!
Will
Mmm… sounds familiar. I just went down that road a couple weeks ago!
Bruce
Oh, I now get it! Rebooted the PC (not sure that matters). Changed the Exit Temp color. That changed the color of the ROR line in the display. The one labelled ROR in the Preferences is apparently Exit Temp…
Doh!
I just realized the mislabeling myself only 5 minutes ago. Glad to hear it was that easy!
Bruce
I have the same issue on my macbook. Cannot change the whitish ror curve into another color. And when I try to change colors, or the background, during a roast something weird happens. The new curve is not developing on top of the overlay, but at its right side. Awkward because you cannot compare curves and the space gets very limited. Sounds like a bug. I noticed this effect in 2.5.0 and 2.5.1.
@wm1 and I both realized an issue with color selection stems from reversed labeling in color selection and on the graph. Could that be what’s happening in your case as well?
As an aside, I discovered with 2.5.1-alpha, there are several changes to this alpha which have been released without any file name change to identify more recent changes. I was able to track the changes (sort of) using Properties. I’m not familiar with Mac conventions, but in Win 10 I was able to d/l the current version while keeping a copy of my installed version by re-labeling the new file. Then I compared Properties > Details of the first 2.5.1-alpha (2.5.1.163) with the current 2.5.1-alpha (2.5.1.170) implying there have been 7 additional updates to 2.5.1-alpha that aren’t apparent on GitHub.
Bruce
At a previous software company I worked at the CTO threatened “will this developer blend” when he found out changes had been released under the same version number, prompting the confusion you and I had Bruce…
I think the developer concerned learnt his lesson…
Why is the boss always watching when you screw up but is off on vacation when you make hero?!
As long as they continue using this process, I know how to check if there’s something new. The info appears to be in place, just not visible at the top level. I’ll live with that for now.
Bruce
I do NOT like cloud software, and one of the main bad things with that is that the business model is always “subscription”. I want an app which can be used offline, forever, without some stupid subscription needed to make it work
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Has anyone tried running Roast Time on MacOS Catalina Beta yet? I’m wondering if it is compatible with the new OS coming out?
There are a number of other reasons I’m delaying Catalina for as long as possible…