Try the Shantawene from Happy Mug. It’s another real winner - strawberry watermelon!
There is a shipment of Natural Organic Shanta Wene coming into Royal on 7/29. Being a “fruit bomb” lover, I might look into this one - provided it isn’t too pricey…
Same experience as @bradm - got the Org DP Eth “Fruit Bomb” in my sampler from ordering my Bullet, and it blew me away… so, so good. I dropped mine right as FC was ending.
But, same thing, the fruit bomb faded after just a couple days… now I just taste hints of bomb remnants
I, too, thought whether the fruit bomb would last longer if I dropped it earlier, but it sounds like it wouldn’t have… pretty surprised that the rest killed it so quickly.
This Shantawene roast was an unusual profile for me, but it is still sweet and fruity one week later:
Could it be that the great flavors in quicker, hotter roasts fade while “low and slow” like this one tend to last longer?
the link is invalid now unfortunately - is this the correct roast?
This is the unusual Shantawene roast:
FWIW, I don’t roast low-n-slow like that these days because I usually go for more brightness and acidity in those light roasts. Have you tried any of this year’s Shantawene crop from Happy Mug? Curious if it is as good as last year.
Hi Brad - I have a bit of both Shantawene and Bombe from CBC. The Shantawene is what I would call an elegant coffee. It’s balanced with all the notes in their proper places but absolutely not a fruit “bomb”. Jane is loving it while away getting a home ready for evacuation and new owners. I’ve enjoyed it as espresso too. I just finished an espresso of the Bombe that I recommended to you as better and more balanced and less ferment than last years crop. It’s still huge bodied and full of sweet blueberry. I know you got some but perhaps It’s not in your wheelhouse for brewed coffee. However, before you buy Ethiopian greens now, take a look at Sweet Maria coffees on the water for future delivery
From one Brad to another it feels good to roast something delicious. Almost inspiring really. I roasted Ethiopia Sidamo Durato Bombe G1 from Coffee Bean Corral. They sent to me as a sample so it was around 235 grams-205g after the roast. It was so delicious some strong blueberry, strawberry notes and it tasted better and better as it got colder during the cupping. After drinking this sweet nectar I was hyped. So decided to stock up, looking forward to roasting several batches over the next 2 weeks. Here’s my roast if you want to check it out, would be nice to have a similar result with a larger batch size.
Hi @solidcup - I am trying to get better at reading these graphs. Could I ask you some questions about yours?
- Your FC is within expected range but your last recorded IBTS is ~460F. That sounds unreal. I am assuming you dropped much earlier than that but somehow the data recording kept on going?
- How does one figure out when a roast was dropped (ie “Cool Down” is kicked off in the Bullet). Should it be the last recorded temperature?
Thanks in advance for entertaining such basic questions.
Since we’ve shifted a bit to this years 2021 Ethiopian greens, here are a couple of my roasts of Shantawene and Bombe
Both were excellent in different ways as I described above.
Well executed Geoffrey! No constant fussing with P/D/F controls at the end like I do.
Bruce
Well yeah I agree, that is unreal, for me my bullet doesn’t immediately go in to cooling after I drop the beans. I am unsure why. So 460c was probably a little after I dropped the beans, the end time probably looks somewhere around 7:50. I usually wait anywhere from 30 to 45 seconds after FC before I drop the beans if I want that medium roast. Which is what I’m shooting for with an Ethiopian.
That’s a good question. I need to start writing down the exact end time, maybe on a notepad or something, or I think there is a way you can edit the roast times before you export your roast graph. I will have to look more into that. Or I just need to switch to cool manually as soon as I’m done. I’m slacking .
It seems that the RT graph doesn’t have an explicit “Drop” and/or “Cool Down” marking as, in theory, this could differ from each other, even if it didn’t quite make sense.
So, my way of making sense of this situation is that RT assumes that you will hit PRS to go into Bean Cooling mode, which is then its impetus to end the chart/data recording. Hence, the last known temperature recording would be also the drop temperature. Presumably, nothing prevents you from just opening the door and letting the beans tumble without kicking the Bullet into Cool Down mode. I am not sure if you are doing that or if you are hitting PRS to go into Cool Down mode and then opening the door to let the beans out. If you are doing the latter, and your Bullet isn’t immediately going into Bean Cooling mode, then its worth opening a defect with the Aillio folks since the Bean Cooling mode is pretty darn important in quickly extracting and cooling your beats. The Bullet manual quotes:
The cooling tray fan will start and the blower will be set to program 7. The drum speed is set to the optimal speed to drop your beans into the cooling tray.
I’m doing the first, I just drop the beans. Then I hit cool once all the beans are out. I will try another roast perhaps tomorrow, and see if I’m missing something. I remember in previous roasts I don’t recall having to press the PRS for the Bullet to begin cooling. I think it automatically would kick in to cool mode once I dropped the beans.
You see in this graph the IBTS looks normal, there wasn’t this up shot like in the other roast you saw. Roast World - Cup, grade, and analyze your coffee roasts in depth
It is better to press PRS and then at the same time open the door. If you don’t you will keep recording and the IBTS sensor will sense the hot drum and you will see a peak temp at the end. This peak end temperature is used to display what the drop temp was, so this will be off.
Also, your cooling tray fan will start later.
If you go to cooling mode after dropping the beans the graphs will easily tell you this. Your data will then be off.
Makes sense and as @Jacob also said, this explains the graph “upshot”. I do wonder that, aside from letting the beans out to cool them, if there is a legitimate reason to open the door? If not, then Bullet in theory could treat door opening as an event that immediately kickstart the Bean Cooling mode without requiring the dual operation of “hit PRS and door open”.
I don’t believe there is a sensor on the door to send a signal to the controller that the door is open or closed.
Thank you I appreciate your help
thanks for this really useful. Just tried with Ethiopia Ana Sora Natural, came out well and definitely got a smell of blueberry flavour coming out during roast near to FC. FC hard to detect, one or two pronounced cracks only - had to slightly remove tryer to hear FC. Good tip on not following exact by time and aim for milestones, either BT or IR as roast was quite a bit out it followed by time. Really pleased with this so will repeat when got through this batch!
Brief tasting notes: Heavy blueberry, Floral, slight Jasmine/Lemongrass notes. Best roast for this bean ive done yet, worked better than 200g sample roast. Will see how flavour develops over next few days