Certification Status for Bullet R2

There have been some growing conspiracies and misunderstandings regarding our certifications for the European and Japanese markets.

Below, you will find a brief overview of where we currently stand with acquiring certification. I’ve also prepared a much longer, more detailed description if you want to deep-dive into the process and understand exactly what we’ve been going through.

I understand that some of you who have an R2 on order are frustrated with the wait—I am too. Our European office in Denmark would also be much happier if they had new R2s to sell, so everyone here is looking forward to closing this chapter.

The engineering team in Taiwan (Maurizio, Jay, Rasul), along with Jacob in Bangkok, have been working tirelessly and with extreme focus to get our R2s through the certification process.

We have every part for the EU version in stock, and as soon as we get the green light, we will be ready to start. We have plenty of machines ready, but currently, we are not allowed to sell them until the final certification is granted.

Instead of a polished curated announcement, you can read the transcript below which is from an interview with Jacob - the guy who designs all the Bullet electronics.
You can also skip to the “Why the delay?” conclusion at the very end.

Interviewer: Okay, so I just want you to talk about the whole certification process from the start until now. What we wanted, what we went through before we even launched, and where we are today. As many details as you can remember.

Jacob: I think first, we need to talk about the fact that the R2 is completely different from the R1. The goal of the R2 was to improve on all the pain points of the R1 and, at the same time, make it easier to certify. That was part of why we chose the configurations that we use now.

Instead of designing our own very complicated five-output power supply, we decided to use a standard off-the-shelf power supply, which has already been certified to most of the standards we require. This choice saved us a lot of time because we didn’t have to go through that entire certification process ourselves. However, when we integrate this power supply into the final product, it still has to be tested and pass all the tests at TÜV.

TÜV essentially defines which standards we need to adhere to. There isn’t a specific guidebook for electric induction roasters, because it doesn’t exist. We’re the only company making this type of roaster. Because of that, TÜV pulls together different standards and tells us we need to comply with specific parts of various standards. So, we are certified to a mix of standards, including induction ovens and others that they bundled for us as a package.

The whole configuration of the R2 was designed around using an off-the-shelf power supply. This introduced some challenges because we needed to ensure the electronics were safe, especially for the USB connector, which users can touch, and the connector for the cooling tray, which is 24V out.

Because these are electrical outputs that users can access, we had to separate the high-voltage and low-voltage parts within an electrical barrier. This barrier is twice as stringent as, for example, a standard USB charger. A typical USB charger has a distance of only four millimeters between high and low voltage components. In the Bullet R2, it’s eight millimeters. That’s because we are roasting in a potentially dusty environment, which increases the pollution degree, adding more demands on the isolation between dangerous high voltage and safe low voltage.

To pass this high-voltage to low-voltage side, we needed a transformer that could convert the 24 volts from the power supply into 15 volts for the high-voltage electronics and the IGBTs in the induction power circuitry. Initially, we found one from a company called Murata. It had all the specifications and certifications we needed, though it was still pending certification at the time. Since it had been pending for years, we assumed it would be fine.

We bought a few thousand of these and installed them in the product, but later discovered that Murata chose not to certify this part. So, we were stuck with these few thousand components and had to redesign the induction board to meet certification requirements. We then found another component that met all the standards and installed it in the R2, sending it off for TÜV certification.

However, TÜV did not agree with the construction of this transformer. The supplier refused to reveal the design details, even with non disclosure agreements in place between TÜV, us, and the supplier. In the end, we had to abandon it. The company would not cooperate, and TÜV would not accept it, even though it was supposedly certified to the required standards.

At this point, there were no options left for an off-the-shelf transformer or DC-DC converter that could fit within our design’s size constraints. So, we had to design our own DC-DC converter, especially the transformer, which had to be approved. This wasn’t easy because of the tight space limitations, but we eventually found a construction that worked. We had it tested by a company for transformer compliance, and it was then approved by TÜV. This custom transformer complies with all the isolation requirements, and we integrated it successfully into the R2.

This was just one of many issues we faced. We assumed we could use standard components, but either they wouldn’t get certified or TÜV would block them.

Then we moved on to testing for conducted emissions. We had pre-tested this in our own lab and found that we were below the limits required. We had experience certifying the R1, so we felt confident. What we didn’t know was that new standards had been introduced between the R1 and R2 certifications. These new standards were introduced for products that use induction technology - mainly for induction charging vehicles. After we started testing, TÜV informed us that we were also required to pass this test and measure the electromagnetic field around the roaster. This is done with a very special antenna setup in a controlled environment that we can not pre test in our office.

When we performed this test, the R2 Pro did not pass at high power levels. This sent us back to the drawing board. We tried numerous configurations—tens of different versions—to contain and filter the radiation. We experimented with different layouts for the induction power board, targeting specific frequency spikes for attenuation.

The challenge with this testing is that it’s impossible to do in our own lab. Every modification required us to schedule time at the TÜV lab, bring our equipment, set up, and test. If it failed, we could try a bit of debugging there, but mostly we had to go back, make changes, and try again. The same applied to radiated emissions, which are tested in a specialized chamber that blocks all electromagnetic interference. We don’t have this setup ourselves, so every change meant another trip back to TÜV.

The main challenge now is finding the right balance. When the Bullet R2 is cold, it’s well below the emission limits—around 5 dB under. But once it heats up and continues running, it exceeds the limit by about 2 dB. It’s not much, but it’s enough for TÜV to reject it.

We’re trying to optimize component selection within the limited size constraints of the R2. The power PCB can’t be made any larger without a complete redesign, which is off the table. So, we’re essentially designing ourselves out of a corner, attempting to pass all TÜV’s required tests.

In addition to EMC and EMI tests, we also need to pass safety tests. These tests disable any kind of software protection in the Bullet and simulate conditions like a cooling fan failure. The Bullet must shut down safely without overheating or causing fire. There are also touch current tests to ensure safe interaction with electronics and connectors. Short-circuit tests ensure fuses blow correctly without further damage.

We also undergo surge tests where high-current pulses are injected into the inlet to see how the Bullet behaves. It should sense the surge, shut down, and then safely restart. ESD tests are performed with an 8000-volt gun that sparks onto any part of the roaster—control panel, USB connectors, buttons, and screws—to verify its resilience.

Finally, they perform temperature measurements across 20–30 points inside the electronics to ensure nothing overheats. We are confident in this part because the R2 has significantly better cooling than the R1.
We have done most of all the above safety tests and have passed.

The last part of certification involves documentation, UL approval for parts, non-flammable plastics, and mechanical drop tests to ensure durability. This last part should not give us any surprises.
Right now, the primary hurdle is solving the radiated and conducted emissions issues.

We understand the wait has been long, and we truly appreciate your patience. Our team is fully committed to delivering the R2 to you as soon as it’s legally cleared for sale.

Stay tuned for more updates, and thank you for being part of the journey with us

By Jonas Lillie - CEO

Why the Delay?

The certification process is highly thorough, involving multiple rounds of testing:

  • Electrical Safety: Ensuring the Bullet R2 is safe for home and commercial use.
  • Emissions Compliance: Meeting both conducted and radiated emissions standards.
  • Durability Testing: Verifying that all materials are safe, non-flammable, and robust enough to handle real-world use.
  • Mechanical Testing: Structural integrity checks to confirm long-term reliability.

We are currently resolving the final requirements for radiated emissions, which has proven to be a complex challenge. Once this is complete, we expect to receive certification approval promptly.

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Thank you for taking time and sharing the journey, hope that all will be okay soon.
I wish you good work!!!

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Thanks for this detailed update. It makes us understand your issues better. We better be happy that certification puts high requirements on user safety.
Good luck with the final steps of the process,
Cees

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Thanks for the honest update — really appreciate the transparency.

That said, it does sound like you’re in a tight spot. If radiated emissions are still an issue at this stage, it’s understandable to be concerned. I sincerely hope you can find a path forward soon, but from the outside, it feels like things are coming down to the wire. Fingers crossed this final hurdle can still be cleared.

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For those not on Facebook - Jacob provided an important update which I am quoting here:

„Thankfully we passed the most difficult tests last week (radiated and conducted emissions) so we are a step closer.“

Perhaps @jacob could add to that and keep us informed regularly about the progress?

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Last week we have passed the tests which had been holding us up for month; conducted emissions and radiated emissions on both the R2 and R2 Pro. These are being certified together, but some tests needs to be done individually.
Next phase involves 3D magnetic loop tests and immunity tests, which we have passed before, so they will hopefully pass again.
Safety tests are ongoing in parallel to try to speed up things.

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Fantastic news ! Champagne is already in the cooler - hope we can cheer together soon :champagne:

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Wow, this is a very fascinating thread to read through and looks like things are progressing nicely on the certification front, despite all the unexpected challenges.

I do not want to be annoying, but as someone based in Australia, where the official word seems to be that the R2 Pro is expected to arrive in “mid 2026”, I wonder if the above roughly confirms this anticipated timeline, or could this be accelerated/delayed based on the above/where we are at today?

I understand that Aillio might want to focus more on getting the product certified than keeping curious potential customers updated, so no answer is also an answer.

Thanks

I guess you meant mid 2025 :upside_down_face:

We have July and another update is expected to be provided this month, also with an estimation on shipping/delivery when Aillio is more confident in being able to fulfill it.

No (unfortunately), on a reseller website, it says mid-2026 (many others do not even mention the R2/R2 Pro at this stage).

Also, we are already in mid-2025 and although certification is progressing, that does not mean that product is ready to be shipped to far away places like Australia.

But yes, I was hoping that with the next update on progress on certification, we might get an indication about the implications for actual availability/delivery of product for this part of the world.

Do you really need the R2 model? I have the R1 version and it has been a flawless workhorse. :blush:

No, I definitely do not NEED the R2 model. The R2/R2Pro purchase would be to satisfy a WANT and not a NEED.

I am running a perfectly functional and relatively new Cafe-Gene roaster (I am still working through 6kg of green beans from my first ever green bean purchase), which allows me to roast to a satisfactory level AND save money compared to consuming ready roasted coffee…

However, it took me only one roast to realise the limitations of this roaster…

The key attraction of the R2 vs R1 for me is the constant airflow solution as well as the pro cooling tray & chute improvement. On the nerdy side, I do also note the more precise power control. In my own twisted little mind (call me woke, if you want), I also justify paying more for the R2, because I want to see a company like Aillio succeed - i.e. see induction roasters replace gas fired roasters and accelerate the transition away from fossil fuels.

Actually, right now I could not justify/afford an upgrade to either the R1 or R2/R2 Pro. In that sense a “mid-2026” arrival date for the R2 in Australia would probably fit in better with my ability to afford an upgrade by then (i.e. I am not pushing Aillio for an earlier release date for this region, but really just want to find out when to realistically expect it in our local market so I can start saving towards a new roaster).

…and then there is always the possibility that if the delay in getting the R2 to Australia is very long, there might be an R3 on the way by then, which might have an in-built first crack detection system, an even more improved airflow solution, a more elegant bean drop method, etc.

To hear that you find the R1 to be a “flawless workhorse” is very reassuring feedback and strengthens my resolve to aim for the R2/R2 Pro!!!

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Bless you @1stinline4model3.lha I can see you caught the same roasting bug that infects the rest of us here. :grin:

Regarding the R2 benefits over the R1, and as far as the constant air flow feature, unless you plan to roast back to back 1Kg batches that may overload the chaff filter and restrict air flow, or unless you fall in the bad habit of neglecting to keep your chaff filter clean at all times, the new constant air flow feature will make no difference at all to your roast quality.

I only roast 300g batches and usually roast 5 to 6 batches back to back in one sitting and have never had any issues with irregular air flow on the R1 because I am careful to keep the chaff filter as clean as possible at all times.

The only time I overloaded the Chaff filter to the extent of impacting air flow was when I roasted 12 x 300g batches back to back in one sitting and noticed the roasts getting gradually “faster” after about roast number 8.

Anyhow, if budget is a consideration, you may also find the R1 more affordable while not compromising much in terms or actual roasting performance or capability.

All the best with whatever you decide to do. :slightly_smiling_face:

Oh, by the way, I am in Sydney, Australia as well. Where in Australia are you from?

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Well, I think I would not let the chaff filter be neglected. I clean the one on my Gene-Cafe after every roast.

As a home roaster (no intention to go commercial), I currently only roast 200g lots every three days. I would not mind going to 250g in future. However, it is also good to have the optionality [with the R1] that you can do multiple batches back to back, if necessary.

Your strong endorsement of the R1 does present myself with somewhat of a dilemma… go for the R1 or R2/R2 Pro?!?

Anyway, it is a hypothetical question for me at the moment. First I have to save, unless my boss wins the PowerBall tonight…

Thanks @gabyritaseek.qiAO for your feedback on the R1. I will certainly keep it in mind, when I get closer to investment decision time.

I am also in Sydney (Inner West)… small world!

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Hello everyone,

Will there be a new update on R2 pro? Do you have any idea about the delivery date for Europe?

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Hi,
I’m waiting like you, does anyone have any information? It’s been waiting for certification for a long time.
I hope the PRO will be available in August.

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